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14 November 2010 @ 09:02 pm
Cold ones during the Cold war  


So I was watching a documentary earlier today - 1983: The Brink of Apocalypse. About how the Cold War came so very close to becoming World War III due to tension between the USA and the USSR and each refusing to back down their nuclear arms. (Turns out there was a Behind the Scenes Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part one show on another channel, so I switched stations and I'm not sure what happened in the end of 1983... ;P)

But what I was wondering is what would be the repercussions for the Volturi and other vampires if a nuclear war did begin.

Also, would you think Aro would sit back and watch things unfold. Or would he try get in there somehow. Influence certain people, certain aspects. If so, which way do you think he'd go - for or against the bomb?


 
 
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Ashlingashling_c on November 15th, 2010 07:42 pm (UTC)
Well I would think if they were smack bang in the middle of the thing going off, well they wouldn't stand a chance as they seem a bit flammable. But the other stuff that comes with a bomb wouldn't be so damaging to them. It's not like they'd die from inhaling the ash, or lack of sun light.
But I was thinking more like their food supply would be severely lacking if the human race was brought to near extinction.
Could you imagine how much of an unhappy bunny Caius would be if he was reduced to feeding off animals to survive.
Do you think if it came to that, they'd start to pick off the vampire population too? Make sure there won't be much competition when it comes to hunting the people who remain.

i can't see aro on the phone with the prime ministers as fudge and his successor were, but i can see human agents working with them
Totally agree. They still have that whole keep it secret thing to go by. It'll be no good to tell the most power hungry men in the world that vampires exist.

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Ashlingashling_c on November 15th, 2010 08:43 pm (UTC)
i have often wondered if vampires didn't resort to cannibalism. we know they feed off one another, and we know meyer's newborns tear each other to shreds, so what is to stop a newborn from essentially devouring his cohort (survival of the meanest, as it were)?
Well I know you don't go for the whole 'stone' aspect of them. But we are told they are stone like so I don't see them eating each other. Besides, there is no blood in their systems unless the recently ate. So if they did attack each other and bite down, they'd get both sore teeth :P and a mouth full of venom.

They are destroyed i.e. burnt. They aren't eat or let go.

No, your right. There is people in on the secret but they are kept close and will either become vampires or be eaten.

In my defence, I never really promised that, lol. You just said you didn't like modern fics. I agreed and said ww1 would be the latest I would write Caius in. But then I ended up just keeping him in modern day. I'm full of contradictions!
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Ashlingashling_c on November 15th, 2010 08:58 pm (UTC)
I'm not saying its not silly, but thats the canon. The even crack like stone when they take a thrashing - and I know thats just seen in NM film, but the director asked meyer if that would work like that and she said yes. I mean they sparkle like marble in sun. They aren't supposed to assimilate into human society so good. It's basically only the Cullens who try.

Yes, meyer said that, but I was talking about if in the advent of nuclear war and vamps turn cannibal. There would be no blood in the older vamps.

Oh, sorry. Misunderstanding there. I am writing my own novel. Nothing at all to do with twilight or even vampires. It's set during the second world war and that's what is hand written.
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Ashlingashling_c on November 15th, 2010 09:08 pm (UTC)
What I mean is vampires aren't made to assimilate.

But you go and teach. :) I've not yet seen the Jane Eyre trailer. I'm still very much in love with the last adaptaion of it over here with Toby Stephens as Rochester <3 <3 <3
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Ashlingashling_c on November 16th, 2010 02:38 pm (UTC)
Honestly by that stage they were like 3000 years old. They probably relished something different. Mix things up, it's not the same old, same old anymore. I see Aro being very curious indeed about all the new happenings.
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Ashlingashling_c on November 16th, 2010 02:42 pm (UTC)
I think the whole wolf spirit thing of the Quileutes is actually their folklore, but the "cold ones" was meyers. I'm pretty sure I heard that said before.
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Ashlingashling_c on November 16th, 2010 03:20 pm (UTC)
if he were to be replaced by a cardboard box, it would have been a better movie. Dear Lord, like. He was awful!

Yes, Quileutes are real. After googling to find the rainest place in America, Washington came up so meyer went for the town of Forks and to incorporate Jacob in she found the local Indian people were Quileutes and made her character of Jacob as one.
(seriously, how the fuck do I know this stuff? I hate twilight!!!!)
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Ashlingashling_c on November 16th, 2010 03:41 pm (UTC)
Well I know she visited Forks but I think that was well after the books were based there. It was literally a look at a map to see where would suit best and Forks was it.

And Jacob was already a character. He was the old friend and his main role was to tell bella the 'cold ones' story and give her the grounding for sussing out what Edward was.
It was her publishers idea to delve further into Jacob, make him as big a role as Edward and have the love triangle thing going.
I mean, I know you haven't read the books, but as someone who has it's very like meyer knew exactly where she wanted to go with it, but then being advised to bring Jacob out more as a challenger for bella she did do that, but remained very fixed on what she set out to do. There is no doubt Bella would not chose Edward. That's clear from the first few pages when they meet. No matter what Jacob had to offer she was always going to go for Edward. It was never a love triangle story for me.
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Ashlingashling_c on November 16th, 2010 03:57 pm (UTC)
I am up for that, I hate alice! So damn annoying.

I threw the books at the wall a few times too. Mainly at shity fucking lines like "my own personal miracle" when bella is talking about edward. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? What fucking tripe.
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fecklefeckle on November 17th, 2010 10:21 am (UTC)
(you should hear feckle on the subject. she wants us to have an alice haterade comm to vent her vitriol. lol.)

Hey!!!

A simple flogging in the streets will do!!!